72240z Posted October 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 I think just about if not all the new muscle cars revisited are shit but they sure are selling.... Quote Link to comment
DAT510 Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 The newest Mustang is ok.. And I hate Mustangs. The new Challenger is by far the best of all new muscle cars. Camaros sucked after the IROC looking ones. except the ones with the LS1s. mid 90's to 2000's Me thinks. Quote Link to comment
Busta Nut Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 Good luck getting one of those new muscle cars to last 20 years.......let alone 40. .......smog laws in Cali prevent American cars from lasting.....20 years is pushing it. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Perfect example of how to keep the price down... http://community.ratsun.net/topic/47778-a-brand-new-datsun-for-3k/ Just build without safety devices. Keeps the weight down too! .. Quote Link to comment
jser12 Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Inline 6 anyone? Quote Link to comment
DAT510 Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 That actually doesn't look bad. Quote Link to comment
VintageRice Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 On the realm. more oics http://www.the510realm.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=12874 Quote Link to comment
DAT510 Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Hood better open like S30.. Quote Link to comment
MikeRL411 Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Renault has strangled Datsun/Nissans creativity! That's what happens when accountants not engineers run the design department. The only "out" I can see is for Nissan to sell partially completed chassis groups with a side offer of customer selected drive trains and interior kits for customer or customer selected final assembly and registration as "custom" assembly autos. "Puma" for anyone who remembers this gem? Probability? Zero. The right thing to do? I think so! Then there is the GM fiasco where they destroyed all remaining Pontiac Fiero Chassies lest someone build an unsafe custom and his or her survivors sue GM since it was a GM chassis. Think I am exagerating? Bell helicopters made the first generation Huey copter. Many were transferred to various state National Guard units which proceeded to modify them using in-house or local contractors. Later they were scrapped and sold as surplus. Guess what. many were "rebuilt" by unknown parties and resold. When they crashed and killed the occupants, the survivors sued Bell, the "original", not the unknown and possible unregulated modifiers and won! And kids, that's why manufacturers destroy perfectly good parts and assemblies. You can't trust the lawyers! Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Hood better open like S30.. S30? is that what that is I thought it was a new Camaro. 'Cmon it looks like a Skyline. Quote Link to comment
DAT510 Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 S30? is that what that is I thought it was a new Camaro. 'Cmon it looks like a Skyline. Well it does say Fairlady.. and it has that Z bulge on the hood.. and it does have a Z emblem on the pillar.... :lol: I think it's mos def a GT-R Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 I've been driving for more than 45 years and reading about cars for only half of them because they stopped making real cars in the '70s. In all that time there were scores of 'concept cars' that came and went and none were built. Well a few were, but got watered down V6s, or whatever excuse. Concept cars are like the clothes that fashion models wear on the runway. It's to pique interest and hype their line but really, who wears that shit every day? It's all about hype, keep people interested by dangling a carrot in front of them. Pull that GT-R body off and slip an S30 on it Quote Link to comment
ArchetypeDatsun Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 The Nissan Patrol which is only in the middle east I believe has a 5 or 6 liter straight six that makes a ton of power, I think a lightweight straight six powered affordable version of a new Z would be great to compete with the FRS/BRZ, but most likely wouldn't happen since they most likely sell enough of the 370z. It's a 4.8 L6 but they make stroker kits to 5.2 apparently. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDm6sqrw4h0&feature=related Yep it's called the TB48DE huge inline 6, there's actually a G35 drag car with one installed can't find videos on that but saw it on a super street mag a few years ago and on the net somewhere. Here are some more good examples of the TB. Quote Link to comment
ArchetypeDatsun Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Here's another video of a TB48. If anything should go in the new Z I would love a more modern inline like the RB or TB or a well done inline 4, screw a V8 that's taking the soul of the Z away. Quote Link to comment
DAT510 Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 I don't want a VK56Z anymore. Quote Link to comment
72240z Posted October 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Renault has strangled Datsun/Nissans creativity! That's what happens when accountants not engineers run the design department. Ya the then the company becomes more profitable then ever lol. Most people forget Nissan was tanking hard before Renault came into the picture. I totally agree though Renault killed their creativity. I been singing that song a long time and no one seems to care. Those concepts look like shit imho. This concept was the best there has ever been. Nissan should have either hired the guy or outright copied it. Dump whatever the hell I6 you want into it, put a sub 25k price on it and enjoy the win. Quote Link to comment
DAT510 Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 I think the ass end needs help. Lines could be a bit less round too. Quote Link to comment
Josh V. Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 ^^ I agree. that design is far most the best I've ever seen. I'm surprised no one has attempted this yet. Quote Link to comment
ISPKI Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 How is putting a v8 in it taking away the soul of the z? I mean, I dig the I6 more than any other, but, the concept of the car was to have a light and agile body with a big ass hood and a beefy engine. Ironically that is the definition of a "muscle car". Light chassis, big engine. An I6 would probably be just as likely as a small v8 nowadays. Quote Link to comment
Tristin Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Wow... Nice updated to the classic Z body. Way better than any of the current 350/370z lines. If I wanted a new sports car I'd highly consider this as long as the power plant was decent. I think the ass end needs help. Lines could be a bit less round too. I'll agree the ass could use some more "things" as it seems a little empty. Maybe if the tails were a little bigger. Rest of the lines look great. Quote Link to comment
thisismatt Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 For the cheapskates - more Datsun in the news: http://autos.yahoo.com/news/for-datsun-revival--nissan-gambles-on--3-000-model.html Quote Link to comment
Tristin Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Already a thread on that. Quote Link to comment
Z Speed Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 If anything should go in the new Z I would love a more modern inline like the RB or TB or a well done inline 4, screw a V8 that's taking the soul of the Z away. IMO, the same thing happened when they went with a V8 in the newer BMW M3's. Like the Z series the M series had ALWAYS been an inline 6. They should never change the heart and soul of a lineage of a brand. Keep it real.... Quote Link to comment
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