VintageRice Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 So, had an older set of POLK Audio tweets laying around. Decided the two little blanks on my 510 radio bezel would be a good spot for some extra "highs" So took out the ol hole saw, cut holes, 2 part epoxy'd the mounts in place, put in tweets and wha-la. Looks pretty clean. Thought I'd pass on the idea. Put this in interior section cause its more of a interior thing than a wiring thing............. oics Quote Link to comment
Draynor Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 Nice. Simple,clean,and functional! Thanks for sharing this! I would be doing this right now, But my tweeters are almost twice the size of yours. <_< :fu: Quote Link to comment
thisismatt Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 The only problem is that you kind of destroy any chance at having an accurate sound stage Quote Link to comment
Guest 510kamikazifreak Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 any chance at having an accurate sound stage That isnt going to happen in a 510 anyhow Quote Link to comment
VintageRice Posted July 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 Yeah really. Clarity and quality are for the system in my silverado. The dattos all about loudness lol Quote Link to comment
Wide14u Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 i have to say i like this Quote Link to comment
thisismatt Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 That isnt going to happen in a 510 anyhow es posible Quote Link to comment
Colbino Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 That looks good! Now can you also come up with a clever spot for the mids? Thanks! Quote Link to comment
Guest 510kamikazifreak Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 es posible With rolls and rolls of sound deadener, the acoustic dynamics in a 510, are slim Quote Link to comment
thisismatt Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 With rolls and rolls of sound deadener, the acoustic dynamics in a 510, are slim Noise floor is a bit different from accurate sound stage, though 1 Quote Link to comment
Guest 510kamikazifreak Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 Noise floor is a bit different from accurate sound stage, though True, and being able to get it to a decent level, is an almost impossible task,with out redesigning the dash/rear panel,too much lost through them Quote Link to comment
VintageRice Posted July 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 I have fosgate 6.5 coaxial's in my rear deck i made. I'm going to do fiberglass kick panels for 6.5's up front. either components or coaxials, haven't made up my mind yet. The center tweets are just a forward facing bonus. It's like dolby 7.1 or whatever its called, with a center channel (only its right and left close together) :) Nothing wrong with that. No one ever said your sound must ONLY come from the four corners. and if they did, I'm breakin the rules!! Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 It's a nice clean job ..... but the tweets should be as far apart as possible. (preferably at ear height too) High notes are easier for the ear to assign a direction like L or R and subtle differences in between. Properly spaced, the illusion is that you are surrounded by sound. Quote Link to comment
thisismatt Posted July 26, 2012 Report Share Posted July 26, 2012 It's not so much an illusion if done correctly. When done correctly you get the best stereo seperation and a wide sound stage, meaning spacially you can pick out where the sound of different instruments is coming from (left to right), rather then everything jumbled together all coming from the same point. Having 4 directions of sound (having rear speakers) is pretty much equally detrimental to recreating an accurate sound stage. I'm not trying to knock anyone for their sound system choices, just tossing out the idea that in order to get good, accurate sound (and yes, this is considerably objective, not solely subjective) you can't have speakers willy nilly throughout your car. 1 Quote Link to comment
DREWSDIME Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 Why not put mids where air vents are at? I have seen a few 510's with this done looks good and you dont have to cut any stock parts :thumbup: Quote Link to comment
72240z Posted July 27, 2012 Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 I think comparatively speaking a 510 is easier to achieve decent sound then other datsuns. I'm big into audio, thinking what can be done with a tiny no room anywhere s30 a 510 is a dream. Clean install for sure but like mentioned the tweeter there is just not correct in any way shape or form. Quote Link to comment
VintageRice Posted July 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2012 O well I dont care if its right. It works. And about the vent install, ya seen that, good idea but I like my vents for air flow more. :) Build myself inline high pass crossovers today. Worked fantastical. Cost about $3 Quote Link to comment
Laecaon Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 I have always wondered about putting them in the dash pointed up, so the sound bounces off the glass, all apple mac book like. But really I bet it would have good results. Quote Link to comment
Guest 510kamikazifreak Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 like I said before, it isnt going to be the "stage" in a 510, have tried time and again,get ok results but thats about it.. And its his deal, I like it,and he did a great job. good for you VintageRice :thumbup: Quote Link to comment
VintageRice Posted July 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 Thanks Freak! :hug: :rofl: Quote Link to comment
Guest 510kamikazifreak Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 Thanks Freak! :hug: :rofl: :hug: :o :lol: :thumbup: Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 This is what I did on my 620. Those are (or were) known a biscuit speakers. I placed them on the dash pointing up, the sound bounces off the glass. Doesn't work as well for mid and subs. Quote Link to comment
72240z Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 Using a high off the glass and mid at least close to optimal direction and a omnidirectional low has been a recipe for success for a long time. Thats why I dont understand doing this when it could be done a way that sounds better. I mean the speakers are for sound right? To me its like building a gorgeous engine that doesnt run, I dont care if its right it looks good! lol Kudos on trying to utilize something stock and make it look good and be functional. Always great to see and draw inspiration from stuff like that. Its a square wheel your inventing though. One of the hard parts of mobile audio is creating a sound stage that is blended and true rather then isolated and directional. Thats exactly what putting 2 tweeter right next to one another dead center so close is going to do, make a very hollow, separated, directional sound. Quote Link to comment
VintageRice Posted July 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 I'm going to have tweeters in the kick panels pointing twards the listeners too. Better ones. Just had these laying round so used them. On a side note, I suppose I coulda installed them somehow under, or in the metal dash that points up at the window. That woulda been better. But I didn't think of that. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 The problem is tweets have to have a direct line of sight to your ears for best quality. Someone's leg/knee in the way will block this. Quote Link to comment
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