Bosozoku-Bippu-Kyusha-Shakotan-Zokusha Car Picture thread

[datsunfreak]

No, it does not. Not stock at least, unless he modified it.

 

It runs the same style as 510 sedan, 280zx, 810, and 910.

 

Well, if it does have the semi-trailing arm IRS (and after researching it certainly appears to), getting some negative camber should be no problem at all. It automatically happens when you lower it. And with minor mods you can add more...   :thumbup:

[datsunfreak]

Pretty much all the lowered ones I see have a good bit of negative camber...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So what's the mystery? 

[q-tip]

I know exactly what he did.....he lowered it!

[Tristin]

I like that champagne on gold. That could be a fun daily...

[captaingamez]

Interesting, 280ZX and 910/810 dont get any camber when you lower them. The rear trailing arm setup might bolt in and give us camber, I wonder if anyone has tried this.....

[q-tip]

280zx and 910 have trailing arm rear suspension, just like a 510....

[captaingamez]

Right, obviously.

 

But obviously the trailing arm setup on the M30 gets camber when lowered, unlike a 910 or 280ZX, are you following me?

[Laecaon]

No.

 

If its the same suspension then it gets camber. It has to. Just look at the design of it. It also gets toe in.

 

There are plenty of S130s with rear camber...

[q-tip]

^^^ precisely

[captaingamez]

No.

 

If its the same suspension then it gets camber. It has to. Just look at the design of it. It also gets toe in.

 

There are plenty of S130s with rear camber...

Yeah I have one, and no it doesnt. Lowered two of them, no they do not.

 

I Never worked on lowering a 280zx but I can tell you for a fact that 910s do not camber one single bit when you lower them.

 

And none of these cars have the same part number for the subframe, mounts, or the rear trailing arms. So, no, even by the book/numbers they do not have EXACTLY the same parts..

[Laecaon]

 

 

 

 

 

Nope, I dont see any camber.

[captaingamez]

I see camber that doesnt happen on mine or the other 2 lowered ones in the valley. :rofl: :rofl:

 

I also see that those cars are in Japan or another country where R30 rear ends are more commonplace..............

 

So you actually might be proving my point about the subframes from an R30.....

 

Simply look at Mister_freezy's car. (bottom of page, tan)

http://community.ratsun.net/topic/55587-1984-datsun-maxima-910-project/page-13

 

 

And I just called him about this.

 

What are you gonna do? Argue with two ppl that own the car?

 

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Tristin]

Yes.

[captaingamez]

Oh.....

 

 

Well, okay then

 

 

 

LMFAO, I mean seriously though, I am considering buying another subframe for modifications to get camber and someone is gonna tell me "oh just lower it it will camber" I am literally on rolling on the floor with laughter at that. I mean seriously, look at Freezys car, there is NOOOOOOOOOOOOO rear camber, and if you push the control arm all the way up in the tire well, you get NOOOOOOOO camber either, LULZ.

[Laecaon]

You also own a honda... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Laecaon]

And please go read your friends post...

 

http://community.ratsun.net/topic/58104-1984-910-scraper-raper-the-shakotan-death-sled-with-twin-included/?p=1064188

[datsunfreak]

 I mean seriously, look at Freezys car, there is NOOOOOOOOOOOOO rear camber, and if you push the control arm all the way up in the tire well, you get NOOOOOOOO camber either, LULZ.

 

With a semi-trailing arm setup this just isn't physically possible. Unless all 4 LCA mounting points are is a STRAIGHT line, then it has to change alignment when lowered. It has to. 

 

Now if you want to argue that it started out with some positive camber, then we can talk.  B)

 

 

 

 

Easy solution: Do this, but in reverse...   :thumbup:

 

http://dimequarterly.blogspot.com/2011/08/rear-crossmember-slotting.html

[Tristin]

I think an M30 might be needed in my life as a more comfortable daily. Pretty cheap for a newer car... Quick CL search gives me a decent one in my area for $2K. Rock a little VG power for a bit.

 

Then a little Leopard conversion down the road.

[captaingamez]

You also own a honda... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

 

Troof

And please go read your friends post...

 

http://community.ratsun.net/topic/58104-1984-910-scraper-raper-the-shakotan-death-sled-with-twin-included/?p=1064188

 

"maybe -1 out back with a little bit of toe in at least to the eye"

 

When I spoke with him on the phone he said that he guessed closer to .5, and he also said with it slammed farther.....

 

 

 

With a semi-trailing arm setup this just isn't physically possible. Unless all 4 LCA mounting points are is a STRAIGHT line, then it has to change alignment when lowered. It has to. 

 

Now if you want to argue that it started out with some positive camber, then we can talk.  B)

 

 

 

 

Easy solution: Do this, but in reverse...   :thumbup:

 

http://dimequarterly.blogspot.com/2011/08/rear-crossmember-slotting.html

Okay perhaps when I said "NOOOOO CAMBER" I was slightly exaggerating, however, you end up somewhere around or below 1 degree, which is substantially less than all the cars shown here.

 

And yes, they do start out at stock ride height with positive camber.

[datsunfreak]

And yes, they do start out at stock ride height with positive camber.

 

That is your problem. Easy to fix though.   B)

 

Or better yet, find some other LCAs with a different spindle angle maybe? Is your car CV or u-joint axles?

[ohmrchristopher]

These headlights. What are these? Any name or part number I can search for?

 

 

 

[Tristin]

These headlights. What are these? Any name or part number I can search for?

Gloria/Cedric headlights.

[captaingamez]

That is your problem. Easy to fix though.   B)

 

Or better yet, find some other LCAs with a different spindle angle maybe? Is your car CV or u-joint axles?

Right.

 

Its CV (Tripod) joint. I am thinking possibly moving around some stuff, I need a second subframe so I can mod it while its off the car. I dont even want anything crazy, just a good 1.5-2 degrees for better handling. Ofcourse If I had the moneys, S13 subframe swap B)

[ArchetypeDatsun]

The 280zx turbo actually has rear negative camber for a reason and that's for high speeds the NA 280zx don't I find out that when I swap subframe from NA to Turbo. Early NA's had the U-Joints and the turbos the CV's.

[captaingamez]

So maybe what I need to do is swap in a 280zx subframe..... It even has an R200 already........