frey1691 Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Hey everyone my name is zach I have an 82 king cab 720 its in pretty good condition considering it dosent appear to be missing anything and nothing is severely damaged. The seats are toast(feels like I'm sitting on chicken wire) and the engine runs like a fat cop(slow, sputters, squeaks, and bogs but no smoke or oil burn). So i really haven't even figured out where I want to start with this thing but I figured y'all could help me figure that out. I have a lot of things I really want to do to this truck but I don't know whats best or if certain things will even work so I'm just gonna list my ideas and let y'all pick your favorites to help me with. -weld free seat swaps -I want to run side drafts on whatever motor I swap in but I also want to get close to or past 200hp so what are good motors and what mods are needed -what's required to get this thing to almost touch the ground without bags -square gauges to round? -wheel base(for IRS swap instead of straight axle and leads -short shifter? Shifter mods? -hid headlight install details -interesting body styling(weird and wacky suggestions please. I like different) -bolt on parts(not stock ones) - newer or older part swaps(620 or d21) -roll pans? Ok well that's all I can think of now I'll try to put pics up tomorrow but when replying I'm not new to the business so to speak just the truck so being overly technical about stuff is more or less appreciated. Oh and rat720 that 84 king cab you had. The guy you traded it to for the ford galaxy works across the street from me and just for the record you did text me about the truck I had the wanted ad on clist lol Quote Link to comment
DAT510 Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Sidedrafts? 200hp? they must be pretty big side drafts....ollz not saying it's not doable but expect less. I think that if you want to squeeze 200hp with side drafts, i'd mostly be in the head. Quote Link to comment
crackerjack69 Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 If you type some stuff in the search box at the top right corner you'll find all the info you need. Quote Link to comment
frey1691 Posted December 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Yea of course when I say close I'm thinking along the lines of like 150-170 and I'm looking at mikuni 50s(clist) but that seems a little overkill but with massive cams oversized valves roller rockers if possible it might not be. but knowing that, what are some suitable motors to get this kind of result with. I'm hoping for twin cam and I've read some things about cross flow heads I think. but my buddy at auto zone says he had a 720 and did an l20b swap he mentioned the fact that he was getting 150+ out of his side drafts and it uncovered my long lost desire to see what they are capable of Quote Link to comment
frey1691 Posted December 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Search box on iPhone? Quote Link to comment
metalmonkey47 Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Sweeeeeet another local Datto owner! 2 more in under 40 hours If your current motor isn't burning or leaking, why not throw some new life at her? Those motors run forever if you can take care of her. Quote Link to comment
DAT510 Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Welcome to Ratsun BTW!!! I noticed you have a G20 aswell! 150hp on a L20B sounds about right with sidedrafts. it'd definitely have to have head work and a mild cam. KA is a cheap and good option. it's around 140ish hp and torquey. side drafts on that would be nice. Quote Link to comment
frey1691 Posted December 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Define local lol and for the simple reason of I am addicted to doing weird and crazy things with cars and trucks plus I'm really trying to make it a real head turner for import Atlanta and import alliance this year :D Quote Link to comment
frey1691 Posted December 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Well I have lots of questions sorry but I was looking into the ka and I'm just a little weary of all the bypassing I'd have to do in light of the management systems also I was wondering if I would have enough space to bump up to an l28 and if I did what fab work would be required oh and the g20 is kinda funny my boss sold it to me for 300 bucks and I drove it ten miles back to my house without first or second gear lol I got it because of the sr20 in it but idk if I have the funds available to build it from top to bottom for a turbo Quote Link to comment
metalmonkey47 Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Local? How about Marietta/Smyrna area :P I'm about 30 minuets from Forged. Don't be afraid to ask lots of questions. It's how the best Datsuns are born! You can always build a long rod L20B with a nice little turbo Or a carb'd VG30! If you got the money and don't feel like screwing with the EFI, you can always pay a visit to Garage Zero down in Winters Chapel and get John to swap it for you Quote Link to comment
Z chopper Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 carbed vg30 or a ka24 would be best choices Quote Link to comment
frey1691 Posted December 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 Ok sounds good I'll get to looking for that stuff so my next ? Is how do I get my damn dash board out it's in really good shape so I'm trying to be gentle and whats some easy body styling that I can do without a welder Quote Link to comment
crackerjack69 Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 Here's a few ideas.... Quote Link to comment
KC Phirus Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 Here's a few ideas.... Awesome. Awesomer. Awesomest. Even if everyone hates it. I'd totally rock the big rig 620 Quote Link to comment
Lockleaf Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 Seats - there is a thread just a few down from this one listing a number of good seat swaps. My personal favorite is using Z32 seats, it just requires a little drilling of the mounting holes, but they have to both be manual seats. I would figure that a little finagling will get an L28 into the front of one of these but it's gonna take some work. Or go crazy and try and retrofit a VG intake into Side draft. These are ITB's but hey you get the idea Original intake That should get you to your power goal too. :) For dropping and suspension, go read everything you can in Datto projects section. There are some really impressive builds that combine everything you are looking for. Just read, read, read. And for "different" body ideas, go try google and search bosozoku, bosuzoku, bososoku, bosozuku, etc. The term is a japanese word regarding some pretty exreme styles that go all over the place. Check out this Bozo nonsense SWEET! We are all happy to help a newb however we can, but from here, go do some serious forum searching and reading on here. There is tons of amazing information that is available on here. Quote Link to comment
Guest kamakazi620 Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 Hey everyone my name is zach I have an 82 king cab 720 its in pretty good condition considering it dosent appear to be missing anything and nothing is severely damaged. The seats are toast(feels like I'm sitting on chicken wire) and the engine runs like a fat cop(slow, sputters, squeaks, and bogs but no smoke or oil burn). So i really haven't even figured out where I want to start with this thing but I figured y'all could help me figure that out. I have a lot of things I really want to do to this truck but I don't know whats best or if certain things will even work so I'm just gonna list my ideas and let y'all pick your favorites to help me with. -weld free seat swaps -I want to run side drafts on whatever motor I swap in but I also want to get close to or past 200hp so what are good motors and what mods are needed -what's required to get this thing to almost touch the ground without bags -square gauges to round? -wheel base(for IRS swap instead of straight axle and leads -short shifter? Shifter mods? -hid headlight install details -interesting body styling(weird and wacky suggestions please. I like different) -bolt on parts(not stock ones) - newer or older part swaps(620 or d21) -roll pans? Ok well that's all I can think of now I'll try to put pics up tomorrow but when replying I'm not new to the business so to speak just the truck so being overly technical about stuff is more or less appreciated. Oh and rat720 that 84 king cab you had. The guy you traded it to for the ford galaxy works across the street from me and just for the record you did text me about the truck I had the wanted ad on clist lol For the gauges just swap a '84-86 dash in Bam!!! done and done!! Quote Link to comment
frey1691 Posted January 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 Ok everyone ive done a lot of searching and I've learned a lot I've got me an 85 4x4 parts truck and it turns out that the dash wiring is different does anyone know what wires go to what so I can wire it up? Also bu different and wacky I was t thinking that extreme I was thinking more along the lines of using mustang bumpers or sentra headlights basically what kind of cool things can I do by modifying things at a pull a part also I'm trying to go with a classic tuner "theme" I want it to have similar style to the cars you normally see like 510s and maximas I like the fender flares but I'm not trying to go outlandish I just want this truck to look a less like a truck but for it to still be functional as one Quote Link to comment
wayno Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 Ok everyone ive done a lot of searching and I've learned a lot I've got me an 85 4x4 parts truck and it turns out that the dash wiring is different does anyone know what wires go to what so I can wire it up? Also bu different and wacky I was t thinking that extreme I was thinking more along the lines of using mustang bumpers or sentra headlights basically what kind of cool things can I do by modifying things at a pull a part also I'm trying to go with a classic tuner "theme" I want it to have similar style to the cars you normally see like 510s and maximas I like the fender flares but I'm not trying to go outlandish I just want this truck to look a less like a truck but for it to still be functional as one I hope I have this strait, you have a complete 85 nissan 4X4, and you want to put the 85 dash in your 82, I would put the whole 85 wiring harness in the 82 truck, and I would move everything with it unless the two differant years have the same part, such as the column turn/headlight/wiper switch assembly. This headlight conversion is what some have done, I am not sure what these headlights came out of, I have heard of 80s caprice, and maxima. Quote Link to comment
frey1691 Posted January 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 Ok I do have the complete 85 but my 82 is in near perfect condition and the 85 is rough the 82 is also black where as the 85 is tan so I'm only swapping the gauges but I am still taking the whole harness from the 85 but the blue and white clips are set up different when I plugged the 85harness into my 82 the headlight switch turned on my turn signal lights and my turnsignals just made the relays make funny noises :blink: Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted January 22, 2012 Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 Yes they are. I installed an 85 720 dash in my 620 but the wiring harness was from an '81 or '82. The instruments are wired differently. Left turn made the brake warning light light up. I just swapped the wires around. Only thing I couldn't get to work was the hi beam indicator. This is the one with tach and clock, all working now. Quote Link to comment
frey1691 Posted January 22, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 22, 2012 Can you tell me exactly what needs switching? Quote Link to comment
wayno Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 Ok I do have the complete 85 but my 82 is in near perfect condition and the 85 is rough the 82 is also black where as the 85 is tan so I'm only swapping the gauges but I am still taking the whole harness from the 85 but the blue and white clips are set up different when I plugged the 85harness into my 82 the headlight switch turned on my turn signal lights and my turnsignals just made the relays make funny noises :blink: I am talking about the whole wiring harness, from the front turn signals/headlights of the truck, to the taillights, everything electrical. You don't have to change the dash itself, just the instrument cluster, as the instrument cluster goes with the wiring harness unless there the same model type, what I mean by that is square gauges go with square gauge wiring harnesses, but you will have to remove the dash to get the wiring harness out. It's not that hard to do, but you have to remember how to put it back together. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 Gees I was hoping you wouldn't ask. That was 10 years ago. There are two 10 pin plugs or connectors... a BLUE and WHITE set . Seems I only had to swap wires on only one of them. (could be wrong) Compare the wire color codes on the dash harness side connecter to the wire colors of the corresponding instrument cluster harness connecter. If they are all there but don't match up you can just move them till they do. I would change the ones on the dash harness and not the instrument harness. This way if you have to replace the instrument cluster the harness will just plug in and work. To remove the pins, I used a straightened hair pin and push in and down beside the pin to bend the barb in so the wire can be gently pulled out. Don't have more than two out at a time and work on one color connector at a time. Make a diagram of the connectors and wire colors so you can go back to it. Try that first. Quote Link to comment
Xander_42 Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 Do that, but with some of these so that you have carbs and velocity stacks sticking up through the hood. Brilliant! Quote Link to comment
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