do i have flipped crossmember???

[FiveTenzo]

Guna try to make this short. was looking at my crossmember and KA swap and it had welds on it. Do i have a flipped front cross member for a KA swap? i dont think its facing the right way so ill probably have to turn it 180 degress(but idk). My car has a L20, and ive read you have to flip it if you dont want to use the l16 oil pan. Can anyone help and tell me what i can do?

 

 

 

 

 

 

[FiveTenzo]

WOW. I ment Flipped front cross member. sorry

[bonvo]

no thats a stock cross member

[gen4maxima536]

Is the motor mount (isolator) upside down?

[DAT510]

the only reason you flip the cross member is to clear the pan, you can make your own pan.

i read a thread on here about someone making their own pan instead of flipping the cross member.

[kmc63]

So the motor mounts on a stock cross-member will accomadate a KA without modification, if that is the case modifying the oil pan seems like a lot less work?

[DAT510]

not sure about the motor mounts, but ultimately, the oil pan is easier, or seems easier, as long as you can fab you'll be fine.

[Sinnful]

to put a KA/SR in a 510 you run 620 motor mounts( they are taller than 510 ones)

 

for teh crossmember, you can go a couple different routes......buy one from a shop, some people build custom ones(I'm one of them), or you can "flip" your factory one. but when people "flip" the crossmember they are not just spinning it around. you build a jig and tehn cut the center section out and flip that part and then re weld it back together.

[hang_510]

the oil pan is easier, or seems easier, as long as you can fab you'll be fine.

if that is the case modifying the oil pan seems like a lot less work?

:rofl:

 

 

how many custom oil pans do you see vs flipped Xmembers?

[ggzilla]

I see a lot more custom oil pans than flipped crossmembers. Only the Datsun 510 community seems to be fixated on modifying the car instead of the engine fitting parts.

[Shagy]

who makes rear sump pans for the KA motors?

[DISLEXICDIME]

It is a lot less work to flip the x member vs building a pan but then you nead a custom sway bar

[dennis]

You cannot run a modified oil pan on a SR since the pick up tube is mounted in the front plus you have no provisions for fabing up a pan in the rear. SR pan is pretty small.

[Jesse C.]

You cannot run a modified oil pan on a SR since the pick up tube is mounted in the front plus you have no provisions for fabing up a pan in the rear. SR pan is pretty small.

 

Almost every Nissan engine has the pick up mounted in the front, that is where the oil pumps are.

[dennis]

I shouldnt have said you cant, because almost anything is possible if you throw enough money at it. But why reinvent the wheel when you can just reverse the center section on the front crossmember?

[DISLEXICDIME]

flipping the center is more work. just cut the welds for the pins and flip them around

[jesusno2]

If you actually measure out a 510 cross member their tapered. Or mount on a angle. If ya flip the cross member and then just flip the tubes I dont think it will bolt back on and your alignment would be pretty goofy. Its been a while since I actually looked at one in detail cause I thought about making brand new ones. I made a jig from one and flipped it backwards once and was like well that doesnt fit wtf, thats when noticed their is a taper built into them.

[DISLEXICDIME]

If you actually measure out a 510 cross member their tapered. Or mount on a angle. If ya flip the cross member and then just flip the tubes I dont think it will bolt back on and your alignment would be pretty goofy. Its been a while since I actually looked at one in detail cause I thought about making brand new ones. I made a jig from one and flipped it backwards once and was like well that doesnt fit wtf, thats when noticed their is a taper built into them.

 

i know a few crs running like this mine is about to be one of them.the trick is cut the sleeves out with hole saw flip and weld my bad i left that part out

 

i think when i do the rack i am going to make a cross member like Chris makes or just have him make me one and add mounts for a rack

[tredspeed]

i think what jesusno2 means is that mount holes to the body are at an angle you will have to slot them and realign your car

but yes you can do it that way and at the same time rase them an inch to fix bump steer