RAlly_DatoB210 Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 So I was looking around with google to see about a cheap decent motor option. Here is what I found, ca20e came in the 200sx but it's a pretty weak engine an the rods are toothpicks. Also doesn't have the oil squirter block found in the ca18det but a blown ca18det plus a cheap ca20e could maybe equal a good turbo ca20det? Tomei I'm gunnin for you! Does anyone have any info on this or ideas maybe even building it? Got some basics from other places but since I'm not on ozdat or other forums I wouldn't know the credibility. Have seen a few actually produced but the only one I've seen exploded like a grenade after 17 psi of boost. I'll keep it below that for sure. Like no more than 12 at the most and only 5 to 7 if it's uneasy Quote Link to comment
Burabuda Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 do some googling and you won't like the idea when you're done Quote Link to comment
ninja philbo Posted February 11, 2011 Report Share Posted February 11, 2011 yer dude just go ca18det there a wicked motor as is Quote Link to comment
RAlly_DatoB210 Posted February 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2011 Yeah that engine would be a bust. Single cam ca18 was trash and read ca20 rods are weaker than a14 rods. Too much work and money for that option Quote Link to comment
NCRmtrsprts510 Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 CA18DET FTW. Quote Link to comment
RAlly_DatoB210 Posted February 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 CA18DET FTW. Yeah that does deserve a win. I would love to have one in my b210 that or a ka. Na ka can equal a ca18 with a few bolt ons.. And no turbo lag. Quote Link to comment
Laecaon Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 Yeah that does deserve a win. I would love to have one in my b210 that or a ka. Na ka can equal a ca18 with a few bolt ons.. And no turbo lag. A CA with a few bolt ons can equal an SR... CA is fully forged... Its smaller, lighter, designed for more power... Quote Link to comment
RAlly_DatoB210 Posted February 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 But the sr with similar bolt ons can make more power still. I know this debate has been had a million times over it just seems for a goal around 200 to 250 rwhp the ka could do it with less strain and naturally asperated. Plus when if I feel the need for more power I can get a jegs turbo kit for it and start boosting. Unless someone knows where there Is a cheap ca Layin around I feel the abundant ka24 may be in store Quote Link to comment
Laecaon Posted February 16, 2011 Report Share Posted February 16, 2011 Sounds like your mind is made up then. Choose one and go. I dont want a KA simply because I dont like the letter "K"... yea I can be odd. Quote Link to comment
NCRmtrsprts510 Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 how much is a full KA swap? Quote Link to comment
nismo dr Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 Sounds like your mind is made up then. Choose one and go. I dont want a KA simply because I dont like the letter "K"... yea I can be odd. does not approve Quote Link to comment
dimedriver Posted February 17, 2011 Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 You can get KA's pretty cheap depending on where you are. With all the 240sx guys wanted to swap to SR's they can be had pretty cheap. Try for $500 without transmission and maybe 600 with. Then you need to shorten the drive shaft ~100 to 175. + custom pan or cut up/flipped cross member + custom front sway bar easy $200 + for that. Then a custom or nice radiator $200++. other random stuff like a fuse relay box and stuff +100. Before you throw it in put a aluminum fly wheel on it and nice clutch. Thats going to be around $300. This can really easily get you into the $500 range just to get the engine in there the right way. You will have to pay this with the CA also but it has a turbo so now you need heat shielding for the brake master and stuff + another random +25 or +50(tools and scrap metal). The KA is a good platform, It has parts in the US on lots of cars. IT sold very well here. SR and CA not so much. With a good ECU tune, bigger injectors, bigger MAF, CAI and header if has been known to put down 180HP. If you start messing with the cam timing or get a cam for it, 200HP NA is not hard. The CA easily will cost you 3x more than a KA but the install will cost nearly the same. Why do you want to get rid of your L? -Dime Quote Link to comment
RAlly_DatoB210 Posted February 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2011 The CA easily will cost you 3x more than a KA but the install will cost nearly the same. Why do you want to get rid of your L? -Dime i want to get rid of my a14 id take an l but for the power and money its looking toward ka. Quote Link to comment
NCRmtrsprts510 Posted February 18, 2011 Report Share Posted February 18, 2011 i would not say 3x more. got my ca18det shipped to my house for $1300. motorset $900, shipping $400 literally cross country, from east coast Canada to California. Quote Link to comment
ninja philbo Posted April 11, 2011 Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 wow in aus i just bought a whole ca18det s13 for 500 runs sweet body not so much im looking at a 4 door 510 atm u do the maths Quote Link to comment
DISLEXICDIME Posted April 11, 2011 Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 But the sr with similar bolt ons can make more power still. I know this debate has been had a million times over it just seems for a goal around 200 to 250 rwhp the ka could do it with less strain and naturally asperated. Plus when if I feel the need for more power I can get a jegs turbo kit for it and start boosting. Unless someone knows where there Is a cheap ca Layin around I feel the abundant ka24 may be in store A na ka that can make 200 to 250 is verry expensive . And ka's do not handle boost well they make a lot of power but they always blow a part one way or another. Buy a ca or sr they will last longer and have plennty of power. Hell a na dual cam or eaven a l motor will make a 210 quick. What's a 210 way 17 1800 pounds. My 2200 pound 510 is a hand full with a sr in it. You realy have to pay attention when you drive or it will get a way from you when you are getting on it Quote Link to comment
Laecaon Posted April 11, 2011 Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 A na ka that can make 200 to 250 is verry expensive . And ka's do not handle boost well they make a lot of power but they always blow a part one way or another. Buy a ca or sr they will last longer and have plennty of power. Hell a na dual cam or eaven a l motor will make a 210 quick. What's a 210 way 17 1800 pounds. My 2200 pound 510 is a hand full with a sr in it. You realy have to pay attention when you drive or it will get a way from you when you are getting on it What is your SR making HP wise? My thought is that the CA is the sweet spot for a 510. An SR can be made to be a monster and starts kinda high. A CA doesnt start as high, but can make a 510 just as squirrely. At some point the car just wont hook up anymore. Quote Link to comment
DISLEXICDIME Posted April 11, 2011 Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 I have no clue I did the quarter mile math and it said 240 but I don't think it is that high. Plus I couldn't hook up through the first 3 gears Quote Link to comment
ninja philbo Posted April 11, 2011 Report Share Posted April 11, 2011 pfft noob my ass ive built two sr20det nissan 720s building a ka+t 720 atm ive got a 350hp ke36 corolla and ive had many outher decent cars a ca into a 510 or 1600 as we call them here is a walk in the park dooshe Quote Link to comment
ggzilla Posted April 12, 2011 Report Share Posted April 12, 2011 Do I understand correctly? * CA20E + Turbo vs * KA24E + Turbo The KA cost less, make more power and will be more reliable at light turbo boost, say 200HP or less. As per original question, I'm leaving CA18DET out of it for now, that's another question. Quote Link to comment
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