sssr20det510 Posted May 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 well called the kid he was soposed to sell it to me tonight but its at his buddy house and he cant get it till friday so hopfully he dosent sell it b4 than Quote Link to comment
WagDatto Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 I personally don't think it's worth it. Cost of parts go up because the aftermarket demand isn't as high as the SR motor. Sure the initial cost is lower, but it's a motor that isn't well-documented like a KA or SR, power output is on the low side... I just think it's the bandwagon approach to going turbo. However, if you're going to do it, do it right and make me eat my words! Quote Link to comment
inline4 Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 my friend owned a 69 with a ca18det. Quote Link to comment
jnec510 Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 i would definitly do a ca swap my buddies coupe had a fully tuned setup an it pulled way harder then an sr. arts are a little more scaress. but well worth the power. i recommend doin a ka24et. bigger motor way more torque. i saw a 200 ka with a t25 slide way harder than any sr or ca. but i wouldnt buy that kids motor. Quote Link to comment
Icehouse Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Aren't sr's alum block/head 2.0 I4? How can iron block, alum head 1.6 I4 CA be lighter? Honest question.... That's the same thing I thought! Until I lifted a CA block into the trunk of my dime. When they are all stripped down they are tinny. If it were me I would do it. 650 is cheap, doing your own installation can also be cheap. In theory you could have it installed well for around the price of an SR from a reputable shop. Quote Link to comment
jnec510 Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 That's the same thing I thought! Until I lifted a CA block into the trunk of my dime. When they are all stripped down they are tinny. QUOTE] agree with icehouse they are tiny. an i know the one your talking about an i wouldnt get it. Quote Link to comment
sssr20det510 Posted May 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 That's the same thing I thought! Until I lifted a CA block into the trunk of my dime. When they are all stripped down they are tinny. QUOTE] agree with icehouse they are tiny. an i know the one your talking about an i wouldnt get it. Thanks good looking out Quote Link to comment
72240z Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 That's the same thing I thought! Until I lifted a CA block into the trunk of my dime. When they are all stripped down they are tinny. If it were me I would do it. 650 is cheap, doing your own installation can also be cheap. In theory you could have it installed well for around the price of an SR from a reputable shop. That's reasonable I guess its the large/thick casting method aforementioned. I always wondered why no one bragged about sr's being light in the list of reasons to use one in a swap. Guess that's the reason? They aren't really that light..... Quote Link to comment
heirfaus Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 (edited) CA's are nice motors, you'll struggle to make the same amount of power as a sr due to capacity and the heads don't flow quite as much. But you'll be able to make more than enough to have a lot of fun in a 510 Not sure that this is the main reason they make less power. I think the more obvious answer staring us in the face is the 20% lower displacement:eek: CA's don't have rocker arms... cam on buckets----> best setup for high rpm (less moving parts) This is one of my favorite things about this motor!!! I don't know why they don't do it on more motors. 650!!!!???!!!??? I'd do it in a heart beat. At that price I get the swap kit from Maddat. Oh yeah and parts are not diffcult to get...from what I've heard. There are Nissan dealers in the US that stock JDM parts, or can order them in. I think Superior Nissan is one of them. I think they're down in Texas if I remember correctly. Edited May 21, 2009 by heirfaus Quote Link to comment
nick_m Posted May 21, 2009 Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 hehe you both read my post wrong I said they dont make as much power because of CAPACITY (like you said 20% less) AND there heads don't flow quite as much. Also meant the QR's have no rockers arms the same as CA. Cam on bucket. But it did kind of read the other way :lol: But yeah as everyone has said they are pretty good motors just getting a bit thin on the ground. Quite a good motor choice for a datsun in my opinion. When my mate rebuilt his motor he had trouble finding a head that hadn't gone soft. The machine shop was hardness testing them before doing the work and he tried about three before he found one. I'm not sure what the cause of it was. Maybe overheating? Something to keep in mind if you ever rebuild I guess Quote Link to comment
sssr20det510 Posted May 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2009 Ya im not going with that motor due to things i found out about it but if i come accross anouther one for cheap i think i would like to go that route or KA24DET the more i think about it sr20's are overpriced Quote Link to comment
jnec510 Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 to get parts for the ca you just say it an 88 nissan pulsar nx se. they had ca in them. done alot of research for a buddie do to spun rod bearing. Quote Link to comment
jnec510 Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 the down side to the ca is they are prone to cam cap failure. but otherwise they are stronger then an sr. but i would still go ka just cause more motor for your buck. Quote Link to comment
Icehouse Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 What was wrong with the motor? Quote Link to comment
sssr20det510 Posted May 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 What was wrong with the motor? Spun rod bearing and blown turbo Quote Link to comment
Cuts metal like mad Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 easy fix then... offer him less money... Quote Link to comment
sssr20det510 Posted May 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 I dont want to get it and find out i need a crank or somthing like that hes trying to pass it along as a good motor so i know he wont take less Quote Link to comment
kiznook Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Not sure that this is the main reason they make less power. I think the more obvious answer staring us in the face is the 20% lower displacement:eek: 20% lower displacement would be 1.6. I think you meant 10% JEEZ! Quote Link to comment
ichorid Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 offer him 400, he's gonna be sitting on it for a while at the price you were going to get it at with that work needing to be done. A rebuild, and a fresh turbo would make it come back alive. Quote Link to comment
72240z Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Spun rod bearing and blown turbo and everyone is still advising to buy lol. Parts availability and price was brought up like how many times? Ya rebuild it, no prob. ca isn't worth that trouble even at 400, rebuild and turbo more then doubles that, plus time. That's a whole lot of better things you could do instead..... Quote Link to comment
jnec510 Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 bearings are gonna run around 50.00 an a decent used turbo is gonna run around 150.00. but you stil have to get the crank reground an the rod honed out. an the motor sounds like its gona be traded for a ka now. Quote Link to comment
datzenmike Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Spun rod bearing: Perverse law of the universe.... it's ALWAYS worse than you want it to be. Expect the following... Crank is fucked so it has to come out at the least, to be milled or replaced. Rod is fucked so head has to come off to get it out for replacement. Piston has hit the head due to excessive rod clearance... it's fucked too. Oil pump is fucked. Sucked up all the bearing/crank particles and ground the shit out of it. Then there's the POS turbo! Offer him $200 less? You can fix this for $200?? Turn around and start running. Quote Link to comment
sssr20det510 Posted May 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Like i said i dont want the problems i could have would rather get a ka and turbo it, he wont take less than 650 he said motor is good, he will be trading some other sucker for a ka Quote Link to comment
DISLEXICDIME Posted May 22, 2009 Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 Like i said i dont want the problems i could have would rather get a ka and turbo it, he wont take less than 650 he said motor is good, he will be trading some other sucker for a ka i thought the add said the bearing where replaced ? Quote Link to comment
sssr20det510 Posted May 22, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2009 it did :mad: Quote Link to comment
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